Project:Talent data: Difference between revisions
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The [https://talentsforever.com/ Talents Forever] export generated ''' | The [https://talentsforever.com/ Talents Forever] export generated '''8 October 2026''', retrieved and reviewed on '''9 October''', supplies '''466 active class talents''' across nine classes and 27 trees. The separate [[Legacy perks|21 named Legacy perks]] retain their earlier section-specific source evidence. | ||
Talents identify '''Forever beta 1.60.1.70291'''. Most spell records also identify 70291, but nine explicitly retain 70170 and one observation has no exact build. Legacy retains 70170. Unchanged racial text retains the reviewed October 8/70170 snapshot because the current export supplies no per-record racial build. A living site's general header does not override individual evidence. | |||
== October 9 source refresh == | |||
* [[Natural Instinct]] replaces [[Predatory Instincts]] at the same Feral tree position, adding Intellect-based spell healing. The earlier name retains a historical article, bringing the historical total to '''16'''. The active total remains 466. | |||
* [[Impale]] gains [[Deep Wounds]] as a prerequisite in the licensed source. Raw Talent rows already show this relationship in both 70245 and 70291; this is a source-coverage correction rather than proof of a new game change. | |||
* Changed descriptions or details include [[Furor]], [[Expose Prey]], [[Reckoning]], [[Penance]], [[Water Shield]], [[Demonic Brand]] and [[Spearing Strike]]. [[Gore Drinker]] also has a formatting-only correction. Each rank keeps its own text and context. | |||
* '''31 of the existing 386 bounded spellbook ranks''' change a tooltip field. Membership remains 255 class-specific names across nine spellbooks. The complete licensed spell catalogue has 60 changed records when build-only metadata differences are excluded. | |||
* The source now attributes Warrior trees to the newer client files. Earlier hotfix evidence and two unresolved source conflicts remain documented in the relevant historical notes; source attribution does not independently verify live behavior. | |||
The pinned export contains '''1,717,685 bytes''' with SHA-256 <code style="overflow-wrap:anywhere;word-break:break-word;white-space:normal">c72b0e1f9357260b63c5d5d738627c6984f28e8737a3e8d3888648c8c9e1518b</code>. Data is adapted from Chris Baldwin under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ CC BY 4.0]; game artwork remains Blizzard's copyrighted material. [[Talent planner|Shared planner links]] are bound to the exact new talent snapshot. | |||
[https://wowfwiki.com/forever-assets/datamine-build-20261009.json Original Blizzard build identity and archive receipt] · [https://talentsforever.com/data.json Licensed source export] | |||
== October 8 source refresh == | == October 8 source refresh == | ||
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== Rank evidence == | == Rank evidence == | ||
The active source contains '''1,314 class-talent ranks''' | The active source still contains '''1,314 class-talent ranks'''; Legacy retains '''69 named ranks'''. At the October 8 review, non-Warrior talent ranks are labelled '''Source reports beta-client data'''. Warrior ranks then used '''Source reports client / community hotfix data'''. These labels describe the source's evidence, not combat testing by a wiki editor. No missing ranks are interpolated. | ||
Legacy perks retain their client-provided rank descriptions and allocation conditions. [[Dedicated Study (Legacy)]] also records its source-listed cast time and cooldown. Client allocation rules and tooltip values can lag live tuning. See [[Beta known issues]] before interpreting test results. | Legacy perks retain their client-provided rank descriptions and allocation conditions. [[Dedicated Study (Legacy)]] also records its source-listed cast time and cooldown. Client allocation rules and tooltip values can lag live tuning. See [[Beta known issues]] before interpreting test results. | ||
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== Spell reference and exclusions == | == Spell reference and exclusions == | ||
The searchable [[Datamined data|licensed catalogue]] contains '''3,194 records''': 1,765 beta-tagged spell entries, 1,314 talent ranks, 40 racial entries and 75 Legacy rank entries including six placeholders. | The searchable [[Datamined data|licensed catalogue]] contains '''3,194 records''': 1,765 beta-tagged spell entries, 1,314 talent ranks, 40 racial entries and 75 Legacy rank entries including six placeholders. The current catalogue labels 3,069 records as 70291, 124 as 70170, and one as Unknown. Earlier Warrior hotfix provenance is retained in dated history, while current records use their source-declared client labels. | ||
The curated [[Spellbooks|level 1–20 reference]] has '''386 ranks across 255 class-specific names'''. It adds Druid Enrage and Hunter Sonic Blast's first rank; Bear Form, Aquatic Form and Cure Poison are now excluded from that bounded list because the source marks them as class-quest acquisitions. Their absence from a trainer-oriented selection does not mean removal from the game; they remain in the full catalogue. | The curated [[Spellbooks|level 1–20 reference]] has '''386 ranks across 255 class-specific names'''. It adds Druid Enrage and Hunter Sonic Blast's first rank; Bear Form, Aquatic Form and Cure Poison are now excluded from that bounded list because the source marks them as class-quest acquisitions. Their absence from a trainer-oriented selection does not mean removal from the game; they remain in the full catalogue. | ||
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== Naming and relationships == | == Naming and relationships == | ||
Shared talent names retain class-qualified titles and selection pages. All ''' | Shared talent names retain class-qualified titles and selection pages. All '''71''' current prerequisite links resolve inside the correct class and tree. Row and column positions are one-based. Legacy names use “(Legacy)” and include the source's gates, prerequisites and rank text. | ||
== Attribution and reuse == | == Attribution and reuse == | ||
Data adapted and reformatted from '''Talents Forever by Chris Baldwin''', [https://talentsforever.com/data.json JSON export generated | Data adapted and reformatted from '''Talents Forever by Chris Baldwin''', [https://talentsforever.com/data.json JSON export generated 8 October 2026], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Creative Commons Attribution 4.0]. The wiki reorganizes records into articles, indexes, rank tables and semantic properties, labels evidence and omits unreviewed/video-derived commentary. Game names, icons and tooltip text belong to Blizzard Entertainment; the dataset licence does not license Blizzard artwork. | ||
The October 8 snapshot contains 1,718,002 bytes with SHA-256 <code style="overflow-wrap:anywhere;word-break:break-word;white-space:normal">5e66432cb096c676c6da42e5532c706925ab958703ee14a30d248972aec1bf8d</code>. The hash identifies source bytes, not gameplay accuracy. Links lead to a living site that may change after capture. | The October 8 snapshot contains 1,718,002 bytes with SHA-256 <code style="overflow-wrap:anywhere;word-break:break-word;white-space:normal">5e66432cb096c676c6da42e5532c706925ab958703ee14a30d248972aec1bf8d</code>. The hash identifies source bytes, not gameplay accuracy. Links lead to a living site that may change after capture. | ||
Latest revision as of 00:46, 9 October 2026
Current articles distinguish client-file descriptions, community hotfix reports and historical records. Source confirmation is not an independent gameplay test.
Current beta coverage
The Talents Forever export generated 8 October 2026, retrieved and reviewed on 9 October, supplies 466 active class talents across nine classes and 27 trees. The separate 21 named Legacy perks retain their earlier section-specific source evidence.
Talents identify Forever beta 1.60.1.70291. Most spell records also identify 70291, but nine explicitly retain 70170 and one observation has no exact build. Legacy retains 70170. Unchanged racial text retains the reviewed October 8/70170 snapshot because the current export supplies no per-record racial build. A living site's general header does not override individual evidence.
October 9 source refresh
- Natural Instinct replaces Predatory Instincts at the same Feral tree position, adding Intellect-based spell healing. The earlier name retains a historical article, bringing the historical total to 16. The active total remains 466.
- Impale gains Deep Wounds as a prerequisite in the licensed source. Raw Talent rows already show this relationship in both 70245 and 70291; this is a source-coverage correction rather than proof of a new game change.
- Changed descriptions or details include Furor, Expose Prey, Reckoning, Penance, Water Shield, Demonic Brand and Spearing Strike. Gore Drinker also has a formatting-only correction. Each rank keeps its own text and context.
- 31 of the existing 386 bounded spellbook ranks change a tooltip field. Membership remains 255 class-specific names across nine spellbooks. The complete licensed spell catalogue has 60 changed records when build-only metadata differences are excluded.
- The source now attributes Warrior trees to the newer client files. Earlier hotfix evidence and two unresolved source conflicts remain documented in the relevant historical notes; source attribution does not independently verify live behavior.
The pinned export contains 1,717,685 bytes with SHA-256 c72b0e1f9357260b63c5d5d738627c6984f28e8737a3e8d3888648c8c9e1518b. Data is adapted from Chris Baldwin under CC BY 4.0; game artwork remains Blizzard's copyrighted material. Shared planner links are bound to the exact new talent snapshot.
Original Blizzard build identity and archive receipt · Licensed source export
October 8 source refresh
Seven names enter the current source trees:
- Druid: Shifting Power and Improved Shifting Power. King of the Jungle becomes historical.
- Mage: Heating Up replaces the earlier name Hot Streak.
- Warlock: Soul Harvest replaces Soul Harvesting.
- Warrior: Lingering Rage, Furious Precision and Gore Drinker. Boundless Rage, Improved Cleave, Precision (Warrior) and Toughness (Warrior) are absent from the new source tree and retain historical pages.
There are 15 historical talent records in Category:Historical talents. Existing class-qualified titles remain stable even when another class loses a talent with the same name. Current indexes use only active records.
Across retained talent names, 61 source records change a description, requirement, position, icon or prerequisite field; some differences are formatting corrections rather than game tuning. Examples include Combustion, Deflection (Hunter), Sniper Shot, Champion of the Light, Holy Shield, Redoubt and Spearing Strike. Article snapshots identify the reviewed source, not the date a game change took effect.
Warrior source conflicts
The Warrior articles explicitly label their mixed client/community hotfix provenance. In particular:
- Dual Wield Specialization (Warrior): the licensed overlay retains 10% additional Off-Hand Rage per rank. Blizzard's October 2 notice removes the previous 20%-per-rank bonus without identifying that replacement.[1]
- Improved Slam: the licensed overlay supplies a 3.0-second cooldown reduction at both ranks, while its author flags a conflict with the earlier 1.5-second first-rank development-note value.
Neither discrepancy is silently resolved into a tested gameplay claim. Other community-reported positions and prerequisite changes remain attributed to the licensed hotfix source. The wiki has not independently collected that hotfix cache or tested those effects.
Rank evidence
The active source still contains 1,314 class-talent ranks; Legacy retains 69 named ranks. At the October 8 review, non-Warrior talent ranks are labelled Source reports beta-client data. Warrior ranks then used Source reports client / community hotfix data. These labels describe the source's evidence, not combat testing by a wiki editor. No missing ranks are interpolated.
Legacy perks retain their client-provided rank descriptions and allocation conditions. Dedicated Study (Legacy) also records its source-listed cast time and cooldown. Client allocation rules and tooltip values can lag live tuning. See Beta known issues before interpreting test results.
October 8 learning-level annotations
Five talent-granted spell labels remain source-author interpretations of tree access, separate from the underlying spell-file levels:
| Talent-granted spell | Source learning label | Spell-file level described by the source |
|---|---|---|
| Counterattack (first rank) | 25 | 30 |
| Vampiric Embrace | 25 | 30 |
| Mana Tide Totem (first rank) | 25 | 40 |
| Stormstrike | 25 | 40 |
| Soul Link | 30 | 40 |
The new source notes additionally describe access five levels earlier with Talented (Legacy) at 5/5. These are source-author allocation interpretations, not independent unlock tests or trainer instructions. The five articles preserve the exact attributed explanations. This update does not assert that the underlying spell-file levels changed.
Spell reference and exclusions
The searchable licensed catalogue contains 3,194 records: 1,765 beta-tagged spell entries, 1,314 talent ranks, 40 racial entries and 75 Legacy rank entries including six placeholders. The current catalogue labels 3,069 records as 70291, 124 as 70170, and one as Unknown. Earlier Warrior hotfix provenance is retained in dated history, while current records use their source-declared client labels.
The curated level 1–20 reference has 386 ranks across 255 class-specific names. It adds Druid Enrage and Hunter Sonic Blast's first rank; Bear Form, Aquatic Form and Cure Poison are now excluded from that bounded list because the source marks them as class-quest acquisitions. Their absence from a trainer-oriented selection does not mean removal from the game; they remain in the full catalogue.
The import excludes 51 demo-labelled spell records, all Classic comparison fields, 42 class-ability preview summaries, the separate mixed-provenance Priest race summary, and 21 video or podcast annotation fields. Hunter trap, Druid form/Shred and Demonic Sacrifice video/podcast commentary is not used to add mechanics. Underlying client tooltip records remain separate. The raw licensed snapshot is retained intact for audit; exclusion affects what the wiki presents as current mechanics.
New Legacy challenge descriptions remain outside this import pending a separate review of their underlying achievement records. A licensed source's statement about a video does not substitute for that review.
October 1 learning-level annotations
The September 30 export, reviewed October 1, first changed the five learning-level labels above. At that check, the 466 talent identities, 1,318 ranks and tree relationships matched the previous snapshot. That statement applies to the October 1 review; the October 8 refresh supersedes it. The older article snapshots and raw exports remain retained.
Earlier records
The September 16 demo snapshot contained 470 talents and incomplete or estimated ranks. Its evidence labels must not be read as beta-client verification.
The September 19 beta snapshot replaced Restless Blades with Flawless Execution and Drain Hope with Wrack; Vitality and Balance of Nature also disappeared from that tree snapshot. On September 27, Primal Bite and Blood Frenzy replaced the Druid names Mangle and Primal Fury, while Improved Holy Strike and Crusade became historical Paladin records. These earlier eight pages remain preserved alongside the seven newly historical names.
Earlier source corrections included Resourcefulness, Lightning Reflexes, weapon requirements, Rogue poisons and racial descriptions. Those changes were source-review findings, not automatic proof that a Blizzard patch changed the game on the wiki's retrieval date.
Naming and relationships
Shared talent names retain class-qualified titles and selection pages. All 71 current prerequisite links resolve inside the correct class and tree. Row and column positions are one-based. Legacy names use “(Legacy)” and include the source's gates, prerequisites and rank text.
Attribution and reuse
Data adapted and reformatted from Talents Forever by Chris Baldwin, JSON export generated 8 October 2026, under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0. The wiki reorganizes records into articles, indexes, rank tables and semantic properties, labels evidence and omits unreviewed/video-derived commentary. Game names, icons and tooltip text belong to Blizzard Entertainment; the dataset licence does not license Blizzard artwork.
The October 8 snapshot contains 1,718,002 bytes with SHA-256 5e66432cb096c676c6da42e5532c706925ab958703ee14a30d248972aec1bf8d. The hash identifies source bytes, not gameplay accuracy. Links lead to a living site that may change after capture.
Corrections
Cite the exact client build, source and affected rank. Distinguish a tooltip, a reported hotfix, a known issue and an observed result. Project:Beta verification provides an evidence form; Project:Data policy defines review statuses. Publication checks the current revision against the retained baseline so a conflicting contributor edit stops replacement for review.
Sources
- ↑ Kaivax, Warrior Updates, post 1, 2 October 2026 UTC; staff-authenticated written post reviewed 8 October.